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not belong in the same baseball universe as hank aaron. >> well, he belongs in the hall of fame, joe. i mean, prior to 1999 when the suspicions of steroid use and bonds were linked together, he's a hall of fame ballplayer. roger clemens, yankees, red sox career, he's a hall of fame ballplayer. >> mike, i understand that's like saying that a guy before he started robbing banks at 35 was a really good deacon at his church. >> i know. >> and by the way, bonds, i mean, here's the great tragedy -- and teach it to our kids -- barry bonds was one of the ten greatest baseball players of all time before he started cheating. it wasn't enough for him. she was selfish and greedy. how many times did he do 30/30? 30 stolen bases, 30 home runs when his head wasn't the size of one of these cameras. >> yeah. >> it was the summer of 1998 that did it. he watched mark mcgwire and sammy sosa go nuts. he watched the country fall in love with them. he watched them put up 70 home runs. he said wait a minute. i'm better than both of those guys. he decided to play catch-up. jason stark at espn had a great piece. you
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